my new baby ranchu

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:18 pm

Another jumbo , breed and raised by me
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by wolverine » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:31 pm

How long usually you keep from fry to reach this jumbo size?
Your keeping skill is good, more for us to learn from you.

Just curious, among your collection, do you have those with smaller scales?
These jumbo are pretty stretch on the abdomen area, where the scales are "enlarge" compared to the scale size on back portion.

i am wondering can we provide same jumbo size without stretching the scales on the abdomen portion.
That means the scale remain relatively same size as those on the fish's back.
Is this possible or available?

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 pm

This jumbo is about 15 month fr egg, the big scale on the stomach is actually a camera efect, because the stomach is distended so it is closer to the camera, will show you another shot of her sibling in normal disctance
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:57 pm

This one is now 19 cm entering the super jumbo Size
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by wolverine » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:48 am

Impressive and healthy growing rate.

If i may say, you have brought jumbo ranchu to the next level.
Your consistently to groom ranchu to such sizes is quite an achievement!

8 years ago, i focused on Thai breeders with their successful story.
i think it is time to visit Indonesia, to get an insight of the up and coming new group of breeders.

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:30 am

Thank you for your kind words, I Think Indonesia now have several good breeders .Not many compare to Thai, but we're getting there ( i hope)
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by AdamC » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:45 pm

Neo, I think your breed is considered what I'd call "long fish". :)
The back curve of the fish is not as round as the common ranchus. Nonetheless it's smooth and nice resembling the Japanese comb. Actually, I like the "long fish" as they are more likely to grow to jumbo size >9".
I believe the challenge is growing the head or futan. They are usually good swimmers and are difficult to put on mass on the head. It's also due to genetics in my opinion.
On the positive side, such fish is less likely to develop SB problems. :)

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by wolverine » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:11 pm

Interesting point AdamC.

Maybe after they reached certain sizes, perhaps we can change the fish environment with small swimming space and start feeding a lot of tubifex worms.

Well, will leave you expert.

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by AdamC » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:23 pm

Steven,
You are absolutely right. The environment and conditions could very well "modify" some aspects of the genetics.
The truth is I have yet to see a "long fish" with impressive head growth. Again, my personal preference is a well-balanced fish. I'm not too crazy about the headgrowth or massive wen. Perhaps that's also the reason I'm not into lionchu.

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Thu May 14, 2015 9:29 am

update : the head seem starting to grow now (or am I wrong?)
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by wolverine » Thu May 14, 2015 5:53 pm

YES!
There seems to be a improvement. What have you done?
Do share, personally, i would like to learn from you.

On the other hands, it is also not uncommon that ranchu has no much headgrowth development till they reached certain stage. Sometime it takes as long as 2 years into its growing before the sign of headgrowth development. But once it trigger the headgrowth development, it is quite amazing to see the "sudden" development happen.

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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Thu May 14, 2015 6:36 pm

in my observation, there are several variation, even among sibling (this two are sibling) some show head growth in early stage, and some dont even show any growth at early stage. But in my case, the one that develop head growth early will go slower compare to the small head growth one.If the parent have good head growth , the small head growth will began to grow ( as you state before) when they reach certain size, in my case when they reach jumbo size, the growth began to show improvement
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:30 pm

Now 19,5 cm
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by neo » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:31 pm

20 cm
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Re: my new baby ranchu

Post by wolverine » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:42 pm

Despite 19.5 cm, your red-white ranchu remain very proportional in term of body, head, and fin.
It is a gem! Would love to have it in my home!.......hahaaha.

May you share the grooming again, if you don't mind.
How big is your tub?
Just one fish in the tub?
Feeding time per day?
What is the diet?
How regular is the water change?

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